Dang that was only way I could play LoN b4. Guess I try it in game and see if I crash like b4.
Dang that was only way I could play LoN b4. Guess I try it in game and see if I crash like b4.
Last time I was able to play LoN inside EQ without crashing, so they fixed something, although your mileage may vary.Originally Posted by Rabies
If you want to download the stand alone LoN, this link should work: http://download.station.sony.com/pat...sOfNorrath.exe
Fanra - 125 Hobbit Druid Semper Brevis! W.E.T.S.U. "Donkey, you have the right to remain silent. What you lack is the capacity." - Shrek
I instantly crash when I try the in game LoN link.
I now have to put in my log in info everytime i launch EQ and it doesn't remember my password even though i check off that box to remember it. This isn't the worst thing in the world because i can still log in when i put my info in but was nice to just click "Play" and it launched.
The LaunchPad no longer remembers the password ever since they "improved" it last week. They know about it and it will be fixed Soon(tm).
Fanra - 125 Hobbit Druid Semper Brevis! W.E.T.S.U.
Putting your everquest directory at the root was actually suggested by EQ tech support as a 'fix' for vista/win7. This is how I got EQ to work when I first started messing around with win7. I had to move me EQ directory out of program files and to the root, and it solved most of my issues... wasn't a elegant fix but it worked.
The biggest problem with EQ and Vista/Win7 is UAC (user account control). What happens, in a nutshell, is that with this ON, windows controlls all user access to anything installed under "Program Files" (and maybe other places) so that when you run something there, any file changes/updates/access are not made to their actual location but to an image of those files that are in your user folder.
This can cause all kinds of issues with running EQ in general, but it also means that the map files EQ uses are basically cached copies of the ones in the EQ directory so if you make changes to them there (in the main EQ directory), they don't necessarily show up in the copies.
The easiest thing to do is turn off UAC which you can do somewhere under Control Panel -> User Accounts
It varies slightly between versions of Vista/7
I was also going to mention, everquest.exe runs the patcher etc.
If you want to bypass the whole patcher and just run EQ you can set up a shortcut to eqgame with the patchme switch... as so:
"C:\Program Files\Everquest\eqgame.exe" patchme
This will break (most likely) after any major patch at which time you will need to run the patcher to update the game/files etc. but can thereafter go back to using your shortcut. This lets you avoid messing around with the patcher all the time and frees up a few resources.
It might work but I've heard bad things about doing it that way. Your mileage may vary.
In general, I don't like putting things in the root. It might work fine. But it is not needed if you just use \Games\EverQuest or similar. Just don't put it in Users or Program Files or Program Files (x86) or ProgramData or My Documents or Documents.
I believe what you are referring to is "VirtualStore" and not UAC. Disabling UAC is NOT recommended. VirtualStore, however, is a PITA and I agree it causes all kinds of issues. The way to deal with VirtualStore, is to just do what I suggested, not have your EQ folder in the Users folder.
Googling "windows 7 virtualstore" gives more information on it. Note that both Vista and Windows 7 have the VirtualStore "feature".
While it is true that UAC does use VirtualStore to handle requests that require privileges that are not normally permitted:
the idea of disabling UAC to prevent this is throwing out the baby with the bathwater. UAC does more than this and is useful for protecting your system.Applications written with the assumption that the user will be running with administrator privileges experienced problems in earlier versions of Windows when run from limited user accounts, often because they attempted to write to machine-wide or system directories (such as Program Files) or registry keys (notably HKLM).
UAC attempts to alleviate this using File and Registry Virtualization, which redirects writes (and subsequent reads) to a per-user location within the user’s profile.
For example, if an application attempts to write to “C:\program files\appname\settings.ini” and the user doesn’t have permissions to write to that directory, the write will get redirected to “C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\appname\.”
Note the above, "attempted to write to machine-wide or system directories (such as Program Files)", therefore, if EQ is not in a Users or Program Files (or Program Files (x86)) folder, but instead in a \Games\EverQuest folder, this is not a problem.
Note that all of the above is just my take on the issue(s). I could be wrong. But I've had good success with both my own system and helping others.
Fanra - 125 Hobbit Druid Semper Brevis! W.E.T.S.U.
I didn't put mine in the root directory, instead I went through the steps to give me ownership of my files. When I left click and "run as administrator" I do not go to the Virtualstore folder anymore, but to my normal Sony EQ directory. If I don't click "run as administrator" then it does take me to the Virtualstore files.
The site that walked me through setting up ownership cautioned against totally disabling the Virtualstore because it is apparently one of the defining characteristics of the upgraded Windows versions, and would make Windows 7 no better than the previous version.
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